Sat, Nov 18, 2017Reser StadiumCorvallis, OR
HOW IT WENT
Week 12 · 2017| FINAL | Q1 | Q2 | Q3 | Q4 | T |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Arizona State | 16 | 14 | 3 | 7 | 40 |
| Oregon State | 0 | 7 | 3 | 14 | 24 |
PLAY-BY-PLAY
181 playsQ4Arizona State6 plays · 21 yds · 2:26 · End of Game40–24
- 0:00End of 4th Quarter
- 1:543rd & 12 at ASU 37TEAM run for a loss of 1 yard to the ArzSt 36
- 1:542nd & 10 at ASU 39TEAM run for a loss of 2 yards to the ArzSt 37
- 1:541st & 10 at ASU 39TEAM run for no gain to the ArzSt 39
- 1:544th & 1 at ASU 24Sleep-Dalton,M. punt 35 yards to the OSU41, Hernandez, T. return to the OSU41, fumble by Hernandez, T. recovered by OSU Hernandez, T. at OSU44, PENALTY OSU roughing the kicker (Soesman, Adam) 15 yards to the ASU39, 1ST DOWN ASU, NO PLAY.
- 1:544th & 1 at ASU 24Timeout OREGON ST, clock 01:54
- 2:003rd & 4 at ASU 21Demario Richard run for 3 yds to the ArzSt 24
- 2:003rd & 4 at ASU 21Timeout OREGON ST, clock 02:00
- 2:152nd & 10 at ASU 15Kalen Ballage run for 6 yds to the ArzSt 21
- 2:152nd & 10 at ASU 15Timeout OREGON ST, clock 02:15
- 2:261st & 10 at ASU 15Kalen Ballage run for no gain to the ArzSt 15
Q4Oregon State9 plays · 67 yds · 2:51 · Fumble40–24
- 5:171st & Goal at ASU 10Darell Garretson run for a loss of 5 yards to the ArzSt 15 Darell Garretson fumbled, recovered by ArzSt JoJo Wicker
- 5:171st & 10 at ASU 20Garretson, D. pass incomplete to Wily-Matagi, T., PENALTY ASU pass interference (Rhodes, J.) 10 yards to the ASU10, 1ST DOWN OSU, NO PLAY.
- 5:171st & 10 at ASU 35Darell Garretson pass complete to Tuli Wily-Matagi for 15 yds to the ArzSt 20 for a 1ST down
- 5:174th & 5 at ORST 49Darell Garretson pass complete to Thomas Tyner for 16 yds to the ArzSt 35 for a 1ST down
- 5:173rd & 1 at ASU 47Darell Garretson run for a loss of 4 yards to the OrgSt 49
- 5:172nd & 2 at ASU 48Thomas Tyner run for 1 yd to the ArzSt 47
- 5:171st & 10 at ORST 44Darell Garretson pass complete to Timmy Hernandez for 8 yds to the ArzSt 48
- 5:172nd & 7 at ORST 33Garretson, D. pass incomplete to Hawkins, X., PENALTY ASU pass interference (Rhodes, J.) 11 yards to the OSU44, 1ST DOWN OSU, NO PLAY.
- 5:171st & 10 at ORST 30Darell Garretson pass complete to Ryan Nall for 3 yds to the OrgSt 33
- 5:172nd & 5 at ORST 23Darell Garretson pass complete to Timmy Hernandez for 7 yds to the OrgSt 30 for a 1ST down
- 5:171st & 10 at ORST 18Darell Garretson pass complete to Timmy Hernandez for 5 yds to the OrgSt 23
Q4Oregon State1 play · 0 yds · 0:26 · Interception40–24
- 5:431st & 10 at ORST 21Darell Garretson pass intercepted Renell Wren return for no gain to the OrgSt 18 Renell Wren fumbled, forced by Fred Lauina, recovered by OrgSt Gus Lavaka
Q4Arizona State3 plays · 4 yds · 1:39 · Punt40–24
- 7:224th & 6 at ASU 26Michael Sleep-Dalton punt for 43 yds, fair catch by Timmy Hernandez at the OREGONST 31 OREGON ST Penalty, Offensive holding (10 Yards) to the OrgSt 21
- 7:223rd & 6 at ASU 26Manny Wilkins pass incomplete to Jalen Harvey
- 7:222nd & 8 at ASU 24Demario Richard run for 2 yds to the ArzSt 26
- 7:221st & 10 at ASU 22Demario Richard run for 2 yds to the ArzSt 24
- 7:271st & Goal at ORST 35Jordan Choukair kickoff for 48 yds , Ryan Newsome return for 5 yds to the ArzSt 22
Q4Oregon State6 plays · 53 yds · 1:29 · Touchdown40–24
- 7:272nd & Goal at ASU 4Darell Garretson run for 4 yds for a TD, (Jordan Choukair KICK)
- 8:561st & Goal at ASU 10Ryan Nall run for 6 yds to the ArzSt 4
- 8:563rd & 10 at ASU 25Darell Garretson pass complete to Xavier Hawkins for 15 yds to the ArzSt 10 for a 1ST down
- 8:562nd & 10 at ASU 25Darell Garretson pass incomplete to Xavier Hawkins, broken up by Tashon Smallwood
- 8:561st & 10 at ASU 25Darell Garretson pass incomplete to Jordan Villamin
- 8:561st & 20 at ORST 37Darell Garretson pass complete to Jordan Villamin for 38 yds to the ArzSt 25 for a 1ST down
- 8:561st & 10 at ORST 47Garretson, D. pass incomplete to Bradford, T. (Adams, Chad), PENALTY OSU holding (Lavaka, Gus) 10 yards to the OSU37, NO PLAY.
- 8:581st & Goal at ORST 35N/A on-side kick recovered by OREGON ST at the OrgSt 47
Q4Oregon State10 plays · 77 yds · 4:31 · Touchdown40–17
- 8:584th & Goal at ASU 1Trevorris Johnson run for 1 yd for a TD, (Jordan Choukair KICK)
- 13:293rd & Goal at ASU 3Trevorris Johnson run for 2 yds to the ArzSt 1
- 13:292nd & Goal at ASU 3Darell Garretson pass incomplete to Jordan Villamin
- 13:291st & Goal at ASU 7Darell Garretson run for 4 yds to the ArzSt 3
- 13:292nd & 5 at ASU 12Darell Garretson pass complete to Timmy Hernandez for 5 yds to the ArzSt 7 for a 1ST down
- 13:291st & 10 at ASU 17Darell Garretson pass complete to Jordan Villamin for 5 yds to the ArzSt 12
- 13:291st & 10 at ASU 31Garretson, D. pass incomplete to Hernandez, T. (Williams, Kobe), PENALTY ASU pass interference (Williams, Kobe) 14 yards to the ASU17, 1ST DOWN OSU, NO PLAY.
- 13:291st & 10 at ASU 48Darell Garretson pass complete to Noah Togiai for 17 yds to the ArzSt 31 for a 1ST down
- 13:291st & 10 at ORST 34Darell Garretson pass complete to Noah Togiai for 18 yds to the ArzSt 48 for a 1ST down
- 13:292nd & 10 at ORST 23Trevorris Johnson run for 11 yds to the OrgSt 34 for a 1ST down
- 13:291st & 10 at ORST 23Darell Garretson pass incomplete to Timmy Hernandez, broken up by Chase Lucas
- 13:361st & Goal at ASU 35Brandon Ruiz kickoff for 65 yds , Xavier Hawkins return for 23 yds to the OrgSt 23
Q3Arizona State7 plays · 78 yds · 2:50 · Touchdown40–10
- 13:363rd & 2 at ORST 3Demario Richard run for 3 yds for a TD, (Brandon Ruiz KICK)
- 15:002nd & 8 at ORST 9Kalen Ballage run for 6 yds to the OrgSt 3
- 15:001st & 10 at ORST 11Kalen Ballage run for 2 yds to the OrgSt 9
- 0:00End of 3rd Quarter
- 1:261st & 10 at ORST 32Kalen Ballage run for 9 yds to the OrgSt 23 for a 1ST down OREGON ST Penalty, personal foul (Jalen Moore) to the OrgSt 11 for a 1ST down
- 1:263rd & 6 at ASU 26Manny Wilkins pass complete to N'Keal Harry for 42 yds to the OrgSt 32 for a 1ST down
- 1:262nd & 6 at ASU 26Manny Wilkins pass incomplete to Kyle Williams, broken up by Isaiah Dunn
- 1:261st & 10 at ASU 22Manny Wilkins run for 4 yds to the ArzSt 26
- 1:331st & Goal at ORST 35Jordan Choukair kickoff for 65 yds , Eno Benjamin return for 22 yds to the ArzSt 22
Q3Oregon State10 plays · 67 yds · 4:20 · Field Goal33–10
- 1:334th & 3 at ASU 13Jordan Choukair 31 yd FG GOOD
- 5:533rd & 3 at ASU 13Darell Garretson pass incomplete to Isaiah Hodgins
- 5:532nd & 10 at ASU 20Darell Garretson pass complete to Isaiah Hodgins for 7 yds to the ArzSt 13
- 5:531st & 10 at ASU 20Ryan Nall run for no gain to the ArzSt 20
- 5:533rd & 1 at ASU 22Darell Garretson pass complete to Timmy Hernandez for 2 yds to the ArzSt 20 for a 1ST down
- 5:532nd & 7 at ASU 28Darell Garretson pass complete to Timmy Hernandez for 6 yds to the ArzSt 22
- 5:531st & 10 at ASU 31Darell Garretson pass complete to Xavier Hawkins for 3 yds to the ArzSt 28
- 5:532nd & 7 at ASU 40Darell Garretson pass complete to Timmy Hernandez for 9 yds to the ArzSt 31 for a 1ST down
- 5:531st & 10 at ASU 43Darell Garretson run for 3 yds to the ArzSt 40
- 5:531st & 10 at ORST 20Darell Garretson pass complete to Noah Togiai for 37 yds to the ArzSt 43 for a 1ST down
- 5:581st & Goal at ASU 35Brandon Ruiz kickoff for 64 yds , Calvin Tyler Jr. return for 19 yds to the OrgSt 20
Q3Arizona State11 plays · 59 yds · 5:00 · Field Goal33–7
- 5:584th & 3 at ORST 27Brandon Ruiz 45 yd FG GOOD
- 10:583rd & 5 at ORST 29Kalen Ballage run for 2 yds to the OrgSt 27
- 10:582nd & 6 at ORST 30Kalen Ballage run for 1 yd to the OrgSt 29
- 10:581st & 10 at ORST 34Manny Wilkins run for 4 yds to the OrgSt 30
- 10:583rd & 6 at ASU 47Manny Wilkins pass complete to Jalen Harvey for 19 yds to the OrgSt 34 for a 1ST down
- 10:582nd & 9 at ASU 44Kalen Ballage run for 3 yds to the ArzSt 47
- 10:581st & 10 at ASU 43Kalen Ballage run for 1 yd to the ArzSt 44
- 10:582nd & 3 at ASU 32Demario Richard run for 11 yds to the ArzSt 43 for a 1ST down
- 10:581st & 10 at ASU 25Manny Wilkins pass complete to N'Keal Harry for 7 yds to the ArzSt 32
- 10:582nd & 1 at ASU 23Demario Richard run for 2 yds to the ArzSt 25 for a 1ST down
- 10:581st & 10 at ASU 14Demario Richard run for 9 yds to the ArzSt 23
Q2Oregon State2 plays · 0 yds · 0:10 · Interception30–7
- 0:00End of 2nd Quarter
- 0:102nd & 10 at ORST 46Darell Garretson pass intercepted Chase Lucas return for no gain to the ArzSt 6
- 0:101st & 10 at ORST 46Darell Garretson pass incomplete to Jordan Villamin
Q2Arizona State4 plays · 16 yds · 0:49 · Punt30–7
- 0:174th & 12 at ASU 41Michael Sleep-Dalton punt for 13 yds, punt out-of-bounds at the OrgSt 46
- 0:174th & 12 at ASU 41Timeout OREGON ST, clock 00:17
- 0:593rd & 6 at ASU 47Manny Wilkins sacked by Kee Whetzel for a loss of 6 yards to the ArzSt 41
- 0:592nd & 10 at ASU 43Manny Wilkins pass complete to Tommy Hudson for 4 yds to the ArzSt 47
- 0:591st & 10 at ASU 43Manny Wilkins pass incomplete to Kalen Ballage
- 0:591st & 10 at ASU 25Kalen Ballage run for 18 yds to the ArzSt 43 for a 1ST down
- 0:591st & Goal at ORST 35Jordan Choukair kickoff for 65 yds for a touchback
Q2Arizona State11 plays · 52 yds · 4:46 · Touchdown30–0
- 4:442nd & Goal at ORST 1Demario Richard run for 1 yd for a TD, (Brandon Ruiz KICK)
- 9:301st & Goal at ORST 6Demario Richard run for 5 yds to the OrgSt 1
- 9:303rd & 1 at ORST 10Manny Wilkins pass complete to Kyle Williams for 4 yds to the OrgSt 6 for a 1ST down
- 9:302nd & 20 at ORST 29Manny Wilkins pass complete to N'Keal Harry for 19 yds to the OrgSt 10
- 9:301st & 10 at ORST 19Kalen Ballage run for 5 yds to the OrgSt 14 ARIZONA ST Penalty, unsportsmanlike conduct (Manny Wilkins) to the OrgSt 29
- 9:302nd & 4 at ORST 24Demario Richard run for 5 yds to the OrgSt 19 for a 1ST down
- 9:302nd & 9 at ORST 29OREGON ST Penalty, substitution infraction (5 Yards) to the OrgSt 24
- 9:301st & 10 at ORST 30Manny Wilkins run for 1 yd to the OrgSt 29
- 9:302nd & 2 at ORST 34Manny Wilkins run for 4 yds to the OrgSt 30 for a 1ST down
- 9:301st & 10 at ORST 42Kalen Ballage run for 8 yds to the OrgSt 34
- 9:302nd & 2 at ORST 44Kalen Ballage run for 2 yds to the OrgSt 42 for a 1ST down
- 9:301st & 10 at ASU 48Kalen Ballage run for 8 yds to the OrgSt 44
Q2Oregon State3 plays · 2 yds · 2:07 · Punt23–0
- 11:374th & 8 at ORST 19Alex Bland punt for 33 yds, fair catch by N'Keal Harry at the ArzSt 48
- 11:373rd & 4 at ORST 23Darell Garretson run for a loss of 4 yards to the OrgSt 19 Darell Garretson fumbled, recovered by OrgSt Darell Garretson
- 11:372nd & 6 at ORST 21Ryan Nall run for 2 yds to the OrgSt 23
- 11:371st & 10 at ORST 17Ryan Nall run for 4 yds to the OrgSt 21
Q2Arizona State3 plays · 4 yds · 1:32 · Punt23–0
- 13:094th & 6 at ASU 41Michael Sleep-Dalton punt for 42 yds
- 13:093rd & 10 at ASU 37Manny Wilkins run for 4 yds to the ArzSt 41
- 13:092nd & 10 at ASU 37Eno Benjamin run for no gain to the ArzSt 37
- 13:091st & 10 at ASU 37Manny Wilkins pass incomplete
Q2Oregon State3 plays · -13 yds · 1:40 · Punt23–0
- 14:494th & 23 at ORST 10Nick Porebski punt for 53 yds, downed at the ArzSt 37
- 14:493rd & 21 at ORST 12Darell Garretson sacked by Jay Jay Wilson for a loss of 2 yards to the OrgSt 10
- 14:492nd & 10 at ORST 23TEAM run for a loss of 11 yards to the OrgSt 12
- 14:491st & 10 at ORST 23Darell Garretson pass incomplete to Trevon Bradford
- 14:541st & Goal at ASU 35Brandon Ruiz kickoff for 57 yds , Artavis Pierce return for 15 yds to the OrgSt 23
Q2Oregon State8 plays · 79 yds · 3:38 · Touchdown30–7
- 0:592nd & Goal at ASU 1Ryan Nall run for 1 yd for a TD, (Jordan Choukair KICK)
- 4:371st & Goal at ASU 7Ryan Nall run for 6 yds to the ArzSt 1
- 4:371st & 10 at ASU 43Trevon Bradford run for 36 yds to the ArzSt 7 for a 1ST down
- 4:372nd & 8 at ORST 38Darell Garretson pass complete to Trevon Bradford for 19 yds to the ArzSt 43 for a 1ST down
- 4:371st & 10 at ORST 36Darell Garretson run for 2 yds to the OrgSt 38
- 4:373rd & 3 at ORST 28Darell Garretson pass complete to Jordan Villamin for 8 yds to the OrgSt 36 for a 1ST down
- 4:372nd & 12 at ORST 19Darell Garretson pass complete to Jordan Villamin for 9 yds to the OrgSt 28
- 4:371st & 10 at ORST 21Trevorris Johnson run for a loss of 2 yards to the OrgSt 19
- 4:441st & Goal at ASU 35Brandon Ruiz kickoff for 60 yds , Artavis Pierce return for 16 yds to the OrgSt 21
- 1:032nd & Goal at ASU 1Timeout ARIZONA ST, clock 01:03
Q1Arizona State5 plays · 54 yds · 1:15 · Touchdown23–0
- 14:543rd & 1 at ORST 17Demario Richard run for 17 yds for a TD, (Brandon Ruiz KICK)
- 0:00End of 1st Quarter
- 1:092nd & 10 at ORST 26Demario Richard run for 9 yds to the OrgSt 17
- 1:091st & 10 at ORST 26Manny Wilkins pass incomplete to Demario Richard
- 1:091st & 10 at ORST 43Manny Wilkins run for 17 yds to the OrgSt 26 for a 1ST down
- 1:091st & 10 at ASU 46Demario Richard run for 11 yds to the OrgSt 43 for a 1ST down
- 1:181st & Goal at ORST 20Jordan Choukair kickoff for 54 yds , Eno Benjamin return for 20 yds to the ArzSt 46
Q1Oregon State2 plays · -4 yds · 0:46 · Safety16–0
- 1:182nd & 6 at ORST 8Darell Garretson sacked by JoJo Wicker for a loss of 8 yards for a SAFETY OREGON ST Penalty, intentional grounding (Darell Garretson) to the OrgSt 0
- 2:041st & 10 at ORST 4Thomas Tyner run for 4 yds to the OrgSt 8
Q1Arizona State7 plays · 48 yds · 2:47 · Punt14–0
- 4:514th & 5 at ORST 40Manny Wilkins punt for 36 yds, downed at the OrgSt 4
- 4:514th & 1 at ORST 36ARIZONA ST Penalty, false start (Zach Robertson) to the OrgSt 40
- 4:513rd & 1 at ORST 36Kalen Ballage run for no gain to the OrgSt 36
- 4:512nd & 1 at ORST 36Manny Wilkins pass incomplete to Frank Darby
- 4:511st & 10 at ORST 45Manny Wilkins pass complete to Frank Darby for 9 yds to the OrgSt 36
- 4:511st & 10 at ASU 43Manny Wilkins pass complete to Frank Darby for 12 yds to the OrgSt 45 for a 1ST down
- 4:511st & 10 at ASU 28Kalen Ballage run for 15 yds to the ArzSt 43 for a 1ST down
- 4:512nd & 1 at ASU 21Kalen Ballage run for 7 yds to the ArzSt 28 for a 1ST down
- 4:511st & 10 at ASU 12Kalen Ballage run for 9 yds to the ArzSt 21
Q1Oregon State6 plays · 47 yds · 4:08 · Punt14–0
- 5:534th & 10 at ASU 38Alex Bland punt for 26 yds, fair catch by N'Keal Harry at the ArzSt 12
- 5:534th & 5 at ASU 33OREGON ST Penalty, false start (Fred Lauina) to the ArzSt 38
- 5:533rd & 7 at ASU 35Ryan Nall run for 2 yds to the ArzSt 33
- 5:533rd & 7 at ASU 35Timeout OREGON ST, clock 05:53
- 8:592nd & 11 at ASU 39Ryan Nall run for 4 yds to the ArzSt 35
- 8:591st & 10 at ASU 38Thomas Tyner run for a loss of 1 yard to the ArzSt 39
- 8:591st & 10 at ORST 46Darell Garretson pass complete to Isaiah Hodgins for 1 yd to the ArzSt 47 for a 1ST down ARIZONA ST Penalty, unsportsmanlike conduct (Chase Lucas) to the ArzSt 38 for a 1ST down
- 8:592nd & 3 at ORST 22Darell Garretson run for 24 yds to the OrgSt 46 for a 1ST down
- 8:591st & 10 at ORST 15Ryan Nall run for 7 yds to the OrgSt 22
- 9:061st & Goal at ASU 35Brandon Ruiz kickoff for 65 yds , Artavis Pierce return for 15 yds to the OrgSt 15
Q1Arizona State8 plays · 71 yds · 2:51 · Touchdown14–0
- 9:063rd & Goal at ORST 1Manny Wilkins pass complete to Curtis Hodges for 1 yd for a TD, (Brandon Ruiz KICK)
- 11:572nd & Goal at ORST 8Kyle Williams run for 7 yds to the OrgSt 1
- 11:571st & Goal at ORST 9Kalen Ballage run for 1 yd to the OrgSt 8
- 11:573rd & 8 at ASU 49Manny Wilkins run for 32 yds to the OREGONST 19 for a 1ST down OREGON ST Penalty, personal foul (Bright Ugwoegbu) to the OrgSt 9 for a 1ST down
- 11:572nd & 11 at ASU 46Demario Richard run for 3 yds to the ArzSt 49
- 11:571st & 10 at ASU 47Manny Wilkins pass complete to Curtis Hodges for a loss of 1 yard to the ArzSt 46
- 11:572nd & 10 at ASU 29Demario Richard run for 18 yds to the ArzSt 47 for a 1ST down
- 11:571st & 10 at ASU 29Manny Wilkins pass incomplete to Kyle Williams
Q1Oregon State3 plays · 4 yds · 1:47 · Punt7–0
- 13:444th & 6 at ORST 29Alex Bland punt for 42 yds, downed at the ArzSt 29
- 13:443rd & 6 at ORST 29Darell Garretson pass complete to Jordan Villamin for no gain to the OrgSt 29
- 13:442nd & 7 at ORST 28Darell Garretson pass complete to Noah Togiai for 1 yd to the OrgSt 29
- 13:441st & 10 at ORST 25Ryan Nall run for 3 yds to the OrgSt 28
- 13:441st & Goal at ASU 35Brandon Ruiz kickoff for 65 yds for a touchback
Q1Arizona State4 plays · 69 yds · 1:16 · Touchdown7–0
- 13:441st & 10 at ORST 23Manny Wilkins pass complete to Kyle Williams for 23 yds for a TD, (Brandon Ruiz KICK)
- 15:002nd & 8 at ORST 39Demario Richard run for 16 yds to the OrgSt 23 for a 1ST down
- 15:001st & 10 at ORST 41Demario Richard run for 2 yds to the OrgSt 39
- 15:001st & 10 at ASU 31Manny Wilkins pass complete to Frank Darby for 28 yds to the OrgSt 41 for a 1ST down
- 15:001st & 10 at ORST 35Jordan Choukair kickoff for 62 yds , Kalen Ballage return for 28 yds to the ArzSt 31
Q3Oregon State8 plays · 33 yds · 3:56 · Punt30–7
- 14:544th & 9 at ASU 45Alex Bland punt for 31 yds, fair catch by N'Keal Harry at the ArzSt 14
- 14:543rd & 9 at ASU 45Darell Garretson pass incomplete
- 14:542nd & 10 at ASU 46Thomas Tyner run for 1 yd to the ArzSt 45
- 14:541st & 10 at ASU 46Darell Garretson pass incomplete to Jordan Villamin
- 14:543rd & 2 at ASU 49Ryan Nall run for 3 yds to the ArzSt 46 for a 1ST down
- 14:542nd & 2 at ASU 49Darell Garretson pass complete to Tuli Wily-Matagi for no gain to the ArzSt 49
- 14:541st & 10 at ORST 43Thomas Tyner run for 8 yds to the ArzSt 49
- 14:542nd & 6 at ORST 41Garretson, D. pass incomplete to Hernandez, T., PENALTY ASU pass interference (Williams, Kobe) 2 yards to the OSU43, 1ST DOWN OSU, NO PLAY.
- 14:541st & 10 at ORST 37Ryan Nall run for 4 yds to the OrgSt 41
- 14:541st & 10 at ORST 22Darell Garretson pass complete to Noah Togiai for 15 yds to the OrgSt 37 for a 1ST down
- 15:001st & 10 at ASU 35Brandon Ruiz kickoff for 65 yds , Calvin Tyler Jr. return for 22 yds to the OrgSt 22
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